NCE 02.11: The two wolves

This week's episode of New Creative Era is truly a special one. It was the first ever IRL recording. It was our longest recording session ever. And it was coauthored by all us in this space.

In celebration of @Robert's "there's a Yancey and a Josh inside of us" question, now seared into our memory as if it were delivered by Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood, we got down and into the weeds behind some crucial topics, like:

• Ex-communication and social rules
• The many dimensions of compensation
• Paid vs unpaid spaces
• Enshittification -- how real is it?
• How DFOS/Metalabel are structured

We spared little detail in this very open conversation, inspired by all of you.

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(horrific one-shot header image by Google Gemini to the prompt: "Make Yancey and Josh look like wolves")